Vanilla Color Stabilizer - CP Soap

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Posted By: Megan   |   November 14, 2022

"If I were adding a high vanillin FO to a liquid Castille base (true soap, already saponified), would this be an okay stabilizer to use? "

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Staff Answer We have not tested this in castile soap, but we believe Vanilla Color Stabilizer - Lotions & Washes would be the better stabilizer option.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: November 17, 2022

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Posted By: Kerry   |   August 17, 2022

"Could you tell me if the vanilla stabilizer contains a preservative please?"

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Staff Answer The Vanilla Color Stabilizer does not have a preservative.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 17, 2022

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Posted By: Blazin Beauty Luxe   |   June 10, 2022

"I ACCIDENTALY added this to a face serum formula. will this negatively impact the formula of my serum?"

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Staff Answer We have not tested this product in a face serum and cannot recommend using it in a face serum.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: June 21, 2022

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Posted By: april   |   January 07, 2022

"I used this in goat's milk soap with a fragrance oil that has a 5% vanillin content at a 2:1 ratio in a slab mold with dividers and only about the top 1/4 inch turned the same dark brown that the same soap turned without the stabilizer. I carefully monitored the temp of the batter and soap and at no point did the temperature go over 65 degrees. Am I doing something wrong or will I always have to plane 1/4 inch off the top?"

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Staff Answer It sounds like the fragrance/stabilizer mixture was not fully incorporated. I would try giving the mixture a really good stir and then add to your batter after two minutes.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: January 10, 2022

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Posted By: Jennifer   |   December 10, 2021

"Is this supposed to have a strong chemical smell? My melt and pour stabilizer doesn’t smell nearly this strong. I have to use more fragrance oil whenever I use this in bath bombs. "

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Staff Answer Yes, this stabilizer has a strong smell in comparison to the MP stabilizer. We recommend wearing a mask in a well-ventilated area when handling this product.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 14, 2021

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Posted By: Anush   |   November 13, 2021

"Which Stabilizer should I use for products (shampoo, whipped soap, foaming sugar scrub) made with surfactants such as SLSA, SCI, SCS CB?"

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Staff Answer Our Vanilla Color Stabilizer - Lotions - Washes can be used.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: November 18, 2021

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Posted By: Kristina   |   August 03, 2021

"Can the stabilizer contribute to glycerin rivers in CP or CPOP soap?"

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Staff Answer Glycerin rivers are normally caused by the addition of glycerin or titanium dioxide or the lye concentration being higher than 31%. We have not performed testing to see if our Vanilla Color Stabilizer can contribute to it.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 04, 2021

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Posted By: Cindy   |   July 27, 2021

"When using the stabilizer do you have to adjust your soap recipe to compensate for the extra liquid?"

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Staff Answer Let's say your recipe calls for 2% fragrance oil. After mixing your fragrance and stabilizer, you would only add 2% of that mixture to your product.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: July 28, 2021

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Posted By: Beverly   |   June 22, 2021

"Hello, I used this VCS in two batches, both accelerated very fast ( Old Spice & Strawberry). I was unable to pour, I had to plop the batter into the mold. I was very disappointed. My batter only registered 37 for hardness ( with scale of 29- 54). Is this normal? "

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Staff Answer Thanks for reaching out. Please contact our customer service team for help troubleshooting your formula. We have not run into any problems with our stabilizers causing acceleration. https://www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com/ContactUs.aspx

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: June 25, 2021

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Posted By: Diane   |   September 14, 2020

"Have made three different soaps using the Vanilla Stabilizer and following the exact ratio recommended by your instruction. Browning through out especially on the tops of the soaps! Totally disappointed "

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Staff Answer Please reach out to our customer service team to help you troubleshoot your problem: 800-359-0944.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 17, 2020

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Posted By: Denise   |   July 11, 2020

"I wanted to make a batch of CP soap with Monkey Farts, but as I planned to use white in it I used this stabilizer for the first time (1:2 VS:FO). It never blended with the FO and looked like oil and water, caused gooey mucus-like globs that did blend away as I mixed it into my soap batter, and the reside in my plastic measuring cup was extremely tacky then solidified and I had to just toss it. The soap appears perfectly fine 3 weeks later. Should I expect it to act this way every time? "

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Staff Answer You can try warming both the fragrance and stabilizer slightly before blending. They may not completely blend together but will mix fine when added to the soap.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: July 14, 2020

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Posted By: Rick   |   June 15, 2020

"I am making bath fizzies, would I need to use a vanilla stabilizer such as this in them even though there is no lye involved?"

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Staff Answer We have found this vanilla stabilizer to work best with bath fizzies so we would recommend this for use in bath fizzies.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: June 15, 2020

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Posted By: Nikki   |   June 04, 2020

"I’m sorry, I posted a question regarding the odor in my soap and what might have went wrong. I think I might have said I used a 1:1 ratio and I meant to say about a 2:1. I used 2.5 oz of FO,2 oz lavender essential with 1 oz of VS. Thank you in advance! "

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Staff Answer It does not seem that you have used too much stabilizer. You did not say how long ago you made this soap and if it is a new recipe. The stabilizer does have a strong odor but this has always faded after the soap has been made. It is possible there might be another ingredient that was used in the soap that could cause an odor.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: June 04, 2020

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I used sodium lactate in my lye solution, but I always use it and it’s never caused a problem. I just made this yesterday, and it’s the only different thing I’ve done to my soap. No other additives but I’m wondering if the Bulgarian lavender that was mixed with the FO made a difference in a reaction or that there was no vanilla in the FO and that made the difference. I wasn’t able to find out if there was vanilla in it for sure but it was listed as a fragrance note so I assumed so.

Posted By: Nikki   |   Date: June 04, 2020

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Staff Answer The sodium lactate would not give off an odor. Even if the fragrance did not have vanilla, that would not give the soap an odor. Also, even if the fragrance has a vanilla note, that does not always mean it contains vanilla. We have a few scents with vanilla in the name but have no percentage of vanilla. We would recommend letting the soap cure. As it cures you may find the odor dissipates and the true fragrance/essential oils will come through.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: June 04, 2020

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Posted By: Sandra   |   April 16, 2020

"how much vanilla stabilizer do I use per batch? "

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Staff Answer If the fragrance has under 10% vanilla, you mix 2 parts fragrance with 1 part stabilizer. If using 2 oz. fragrance, mix with 1 oz. stabilizer. If the fragrance has 10% or over, mix equal parts of each.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: April 16, 2020

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Posted By: Dejaya   |   December 26, 2019

"I’m making a lip gloss using versagel and oils and want to add vanilla fragrance and flavor oils. Which stabilizer would be the best? "

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Staff Answer A vanilla stabilizer is not needed. Lip products do not discolor since they are made of all oils and butters.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 27, 2019

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Posted By: Jackie   |   November 03, 2019

"I just used this CP vanilla stabilizer in a basic batch of CP fragranced with peppermint cream FO. I premixed the stabilizer with the FO and let it sit 2 minutes before adding it to my soap batter. The whole batch immediately turned orange and accelerated. Is it normal for the batter to turn bright orange? I went ahead and poured the batter into the mold but it is very orange. Did I do something wrong? Thanks! "

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Staff Answer There are some reviews on this fragrance that the color did change in CP but did eventually turn white. You might want to wait to see the final color after a week or two.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: November 04, 2019

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Posted By: Christy   |   September 14, 2019

"Which stabilizer do you recommend for A Hardened Bubble bath frosting and the Debbie May soap frosting? "

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Staff Answer We recommend using the Crafters Choice™ Vanilla Color Stabilizer - MP Soap for soap frosting.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 16, 2019

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Posted By: Karen   |   September 08, 2019

"I ran out of MP vanilla color stabilizer. May I use CP vanilla color stabilizer as a substitute?"

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Staff Answer The vanilla color stabilizers have been formulated to work with the different products. You can certainly try using the CP formula in your MP soap.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 09, 2019

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Posted By: Courtney   |   August 25, 2019

"Does either color stabilizer--this or the MP version--contain phthalates? (Sorry if I missed this info in the description.) Thanks!"

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Staff Answer The Vanilla Color Stabilizers do not contain phthalates.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 26, 2019

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Posted By: Stephanie   |   April 22, 2019

"When using this product for bath bombs, do I need to subtract the amount of stabilizer from the water or witch hazel that is added to the recipe....so it doesn't get to wet???"

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Staff Answer Yes, that would be a good idea so the bath bombs don't get too wet.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: April 23, 2019

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Posted By: Suzie   |   March 10, 2019

"How to use this product? Do I use 1:1 ratio? Or depends on the percentage of vanilla content? What I mean is do we use the same amount on 1% and 14% vanilla content? Thank you!"

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Staff Answer The directions are listed under "Directions & Ingredients" for this product. "In a glass or plastic mixing container, slowly stir 1 part Vanilla Color Stabilizer to 2 parts fragrance oil. When mixing with fragrances with over 10% vanilla, use a 1 to 1 ratio. Stir well and allow to sit for 2 minutes then immediately add to base formula. Mixture best used within 15 minutes of mixing." We hope this information is helpful.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: March 11, 2019

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Posted By: Alyssa   |   January 15, 2019

"I made cold process soap with this and it caused some crystal like substance under the soap. Was it because of the vanilla stabilizer or because of my FO? Most of my ingredients are from WSP"

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Staff Answer We have not experienced this when using a vanilla stabilizer. Check the pH of the crystals to make sure it is not lye heavy. Could you have used too much fragrance? Recheck your recipe to make sure everything looks correct.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: January 16, 2019

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Posted By: Julie   |   July 31, 2018

"I used this in my bath truffles & it caused a strange reaction, immediately causing my mix to double in volume and filling my workstation with a very strong chemical smell. There was too much liquid compared to what I normally use so it set off my mix. I'm afraid to try it again after the chemical reaction. Is there a trick to using this in citric/bicarbonate mixes without activating? If I cut down on FO the product won't have as good scent throw. Thank you"

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Staff Answer When using this in bath bomb recipes, the amount of fragrance/stabilizer should equal the normal amount of fragrance added. For instance, if your recipe calls for .30 oz. fragrance and your fragrance contains 2% vanilla, you would add .20 oz. fragrance and .10 oz. stabilizer. The stabilizer does have a strong odor which will disappear once mixed into the recipe. You also need to mix your powders immediately after adding as this will cause your mixture to start to fizz.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 01, 2018

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Posted By: Kim Fitzgerald   |   July 25, 2018

"Does this really expire? I bought a 1lb. bottle and never used it and I noticed it has an expiration date."

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Staff Answer We recommend all products be used within one year for optimum quality. If used after a few years, it may not stabilize the vanilla content as well as when first purchased.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: July 27, 2018

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Posted By: Darlene   |   June 27, 2018

"When using stabilizer with 1:2 ratio do I take out one third of fragrance? For instance If I am using 3 ounces fragrance do I reduce it to two then the 3rd ounce is the stablizer? "

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Staff Answer You can do that or depending on the product you are making, blend them and use all as part of the new formula.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: June 28, 2018

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Posted By: Kristine   |   June 05, 2018

"Can this be used for bath salts as well?"

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Staff Answer We have not experienced any discoloration in bath salts. If you do want to use this, we would recommend the stabilizer for MP Soap or Lotions and Washes.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: June 06, 2018

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Posted By: Cheryl   |   May 20, 2018

"My vanilla stabilizer solidified in my FO. What went wrong? I used a two to 1 ratio. 2 parts FO, 1 part stabilizer."

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Staff Answer Stabilizer can turn white and thicken when it is cold. We are not sure if that is what you mean. We have never known it to turn completely solid. You can place the stabilizer in a warm water bath to thin out the product. If you have further problems, please contact our Customer Service Department. Thank you.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: May 22, 2018

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Posted By: Jennifer   |   March 29, 2018

"does one of your vanilla color stabilizer work in wax when making candles using a fragrance oil that has a vanilla content? donna"

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Staff Answer We do not have a stabilizer for candle wax. Wax does not normally change color with vanilla fragrances so you would not need one.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: April 02, 2018

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Posted By: Susan   |   February 13, 2018

"Is this product safe to touch without gloves after it has been mixed with all the bath bomb ingredients?"

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Staff Answer If is safe but we recommend wearing gloves when making any product.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: February 14, 2018

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Posted By: Dana   |   October 23, 2017

"I used this vanilla stabilizer with the snickerdoodle fragrance because I needed a white layer in my CP soap. I mixed white titanium powder with small amount of oil to the "white" batter. It stabilized for the most part but the white layer looks odd. It's hard to describe. Almost looks as if that layer separated or riced although it didn't look that way when I poured it. Did I do something wrong? Any ideas on how to keep this from happening? Thanks."

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Staff Answer From what you are describing, this sounds like glycerin rivers, which is common when using Titanium Dioxide. You may want to do some research to find pictures of this to see if this is what your soap looks like. This will also give you some suggestions on how you might prevent this in the future.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: October 31, 2017

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Thank you for your response. Glycerin rivers are exactly what it was! I read the article about them and I will follow it's advice. Thanks again.

Posted By: Dana   |   Date: October 31, 2017

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Staff Answer You're welcome! :-)

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: November 02, 2017

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Posted By: Aneesa   |   October 14, 2017

"Does this work for HP soap as well? "

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Staff Answer Yes, you can use this when making HP soap.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: October 16, 2017

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Posted By: Heidi   |   September 30, 2017

"Will the scent fade in hot process? "

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Staff Answer Yes, the odor from the stabilizer will fade in the soap.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: October 03, 2017

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Posted By: Tammi   |   August 09, 2017

"If I add a small amount of a fragrance with a vanilla percentage to another fragrance without vanilla (as a blend), how do I calculate the amount of vanilla colour stabiliser needed? In other words, my blend in question is 2oz non-vanilla fragrance oil with 1oz 14% vanilla fragrance oil...do I only use 1oz to stabilise the vanilla portion or do I have to use 3oz of vanilla colour stabiliser? "

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Staff Answer You would mix in 1 oz. of stabilizer for the fragrance that contains the 14% vanilla.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 09, 2017

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Posted By: Pamela   |   June 29, 2017

"How much would it use in bath bomb? "

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Staff Answer Vanilla Color Stabilizer is used at a 2:1 ratio if the fragrance has less than 10% vanilla. If it is 10% or over, you would use equal parts of fragrance to the stabilizer.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: June 29, 2017

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Posted By: Tina   |   March 21, 2016

"When using the VS, do I need to do a water discount? I used this @ a 1:1 ratio, & my soap separated."

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Staff Answer The separation may have been caused by the specific fragrance you used but no, you do not need to do a water discount when using a vanilla color stabilizer.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: March 22, 2016

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Posted By: Reina   |   December 30, 2015

"What are the actual ingredients for this product. I'm a bit hesitant to use a product that only lists "fragrance" in the ingredients."

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Staff Answer Hi Reina - The manufacturer has not provided us with that information, as it is a propriety formula. When used in formulations, it should be mixed with the fragrance and can thus be listed as "fragrance" on your finished product.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 31, 2015

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Posted By: Brittany   |   December 03, 2015

"Can this stabilizer spoil? I was only using the smallest bottle, 5ml at a time for bubble cakes. The most recent time I went to use it something did not smell right. I could even smell it through my ventilated mask so I ended up tossing it. I know this should be used in a well ventilated area but I have still never noticed the smell of it before. I'm only asking because I just bought a 16oz. bottle and know that will take a long time to get through."

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Staff Answer Brittany,
Yes the Vanilla Color Stabilizer can spoil but all of our products have a one year shelf life before expiration.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 08, 2015

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Posted By: Vanessa   |   May 13, 2015

"Could one use this in mp soaps?"

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Staff Answer Our Vanilla Color Stabilizer for CP soap is only recommended for use in CP (Cold Process) soap and products with a high pH of 10-13. Because MP soap have a lower pH range of 7-9 this stabilizer for CP will not work to prevent browning due to vanilla content. For MP Soap I would recommend our Vanilla Color Stabilizer for MP Soap. http://www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com/products/vanilla-color-stabilizer-mp-soap.aspx

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: October 01, 2015

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Posted By: Melissa   |   September 02, 2015

"Why do you need the vanilla stabilizer in this recipe and the bath fizzie recipe? I thought the stabilizer was only used for CP soap making? "

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Staff Answer Without the use of a stabilizer these will darken over time. In the past we tested all three types of stabilizers with bath fizzies to determine which one stood up to the pH level of a bath fizzie and our testes revealed that the Stabilizer for CP soap worked the best. That is why we chose to use the Vanilla Color Stabilizer for CP in this recipe.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 03, 2015

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Posted By: Brooklyn Magnolia HQ   |   August 30, 2015

"Can I use this in bath salt and powdered milk bath recipes when I use a fragrance with vanilla content?"

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Staff Answer Our Vanilla Color Stabilizers have only been tested in MP/CP soaps, lotions and liquid washes. Adding a stabilizer to salts or powdered bath milks may cause a reaction or cause the salts and powders to dissolve creating an undesirable texture. I am afraid that you will need to test this with your formula to ensure compatibility.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 01, 2015

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Posted By: TRISTA   |   July 31, 2015

"I am using a FO that has a high vanilla content. I used a 1:1 ratio and the stabilizer is not mixing with my FO at all. It separates as soon as I mix it, regardless of how long I stir vigorously. It acts like oil & water! Is this normal or do I have a bad batch of stabilizer? "

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Staff Answer Some fragrances to not like to play nice with the stabilizer and will separate. However, once added to a product they blend well and the stabilizer is still able to prevent discoloration.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 06, 2015

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Posted By: christie   |   June 08, 2015

"Does the vanilla stabilizer for cp soaps accelerate trace? I used with cake batter fragrance oil and soap seized."

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Staff Answer There are too many variables for us to answer yes or no to this question. The use of vanilla color stabilizer may cause certain fragrances that react differently than they would without the use of a stabilizer. There could also be more acceleration with the use of this product simply due to the particular components of an individual recipe.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 06, 2015

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Posted By: Jamia   |   July 29, 2015

"I've heard there are vanilla stabilizers that have a strong odor. Also, that it over powers the FO used. Does this product have any of those issues?"

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Staff Answer Our vanilla color stabilizers do have a strong odor out of the bottle. However, we have found that when used in a product with a fragrance oil the smell is not noticeable. You can read the customer reviews for more opinions on this topic.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 06, 2015

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Posted By: Rhonda   |   May 21, 2015

"Are all of your Vanilla Color Stabilizers Phthalate Free?"

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Staff Answer Yes, all of our stabilizers are Phthalate Free.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: May 21, 2015

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Posted By: angela   |   April 27, 2015

"I want to make a pure white soap and have some of this on hand that I'm planning to use. I'm using a fragrance oil that contains a fair amount of Vanilla. Do I need to use BOTH the White Pigment Powder and Color Stabilizer or will the powder itself be enough? "

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Staff Answer The Matte White Powder will whiten your soap initially but it will not prevent the color change that occurs with vanilla fragrances. Without the use of a vanilla color stabilizer your soaps will morph to some shade of tan/brown over time depending on the vanilla content of your fragrance.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: April 27, 2015

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Posted By: dani   |   April 05, 2015

"Hi, I've recently got into candle making so im looking for the things I need. I noticed it said when a scent has vanilla to add a stabilizer so it doesn't turn brown. Does this apply for candle (scents) that have vanilla in it? and if so which one should i use?"

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Staff Answer Fragrances do not turn brown in candles so a stabilizer is not needed when making them.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: April 07, 2015

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Posted By: Regina   |   October 24, 2014

"For rebatch soap, which Vanilla Color Stabilizer should I use?"

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Staff Answer Since rebatching usually involves a CP or HP soap as the base I would recommend the Vanilla Color Stabilizer for CP.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: October 24, 2014

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Posted By: Martin   |   September 04, 2014

"Hi!.. I used it on my Cp soap. Why is my soap sweating a brown color oil aspect substance?... Thanks!.."

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Try putting a dehumidifier in the space you use. I had this problem before. I only have this problem now if the lab gets humid and only on soap I leave sitting out for a long period. It should not sweat like that. Try putting it in the freezer, fridge to lower the temp. It can also be the fragrance as well.

Posted By: Cheryl   |   Date: September 05, 2014

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Posted By: Stephanie   |   August 11, 2013

"How long will this keep the color in my soap true and not brown? Some say 6 months, is that true?"

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Staff Answer It really depends on the amount of vanilla in the fragrance oil and the amount of fragrance oil used in the soap. Over the years we have found that fragrances with less than 4% vanilla and 3% or less used in soap, rarely change color when using the stabilizer. We have heard that scents over 8% vanilla content and 6% fragrance used in the formula change after 6-8 months.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 11, 2013

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It seems to depend a LOT on the specific fragrance. I have tried this with several fragrances that are just not responsive to the stabilizer, even when used to exact specifications and percentages, and have turned off-color or full-on brown within weeks.

Posted By: Christina   |   Date: August 23, 2013

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If you add a little titanium dioxide to the "white" portion of your soap base, it will help the stabilizer to stick more in the finished product.

Posted By: Heather   |   Date: June 30, 2014

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If you use a fragrance with a lot of vanillin, say more then 6%, it might not even be worth it to use vanilla stabilizer. Fragrances that are prone to turning dark will "fight" stabilizers and turn yellow instead. That said, I have had luck with vanilla stabilizer keeping colors true for up to a yea on lower volume vanillin fragrances.

Posted By: Melissa   |   Date: September 03, 2014

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Posted By: Katie   |   August 06, 2014

"Can this Vanilla Color Stabilizer be used for bath bombs? If so, do you recommend the one, or the one used for lotions instead?"

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Staff Answer We tested which Stabilizer works best in Bath Fizzies and posted the results on our blog (http://blog.wholesalesuppliesplus.com/2012/08/whats-cookin-in-wsp-kitchen_29.html) We found that the Vanilla Color Stabilizer for CO Soap worked the best in Bath Fizzies. I would recommend the same stabilizer for your bubble cakes. Thank you for your question.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 06, 2014

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Posted By: Sarah   |   September 25, 2013

"can you use vanilla color stabilizer for cp in lotions? Thank you Sarah"

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Staff Answer The Vanilla Color Stabilizer- CP will most likely not work in lotions. We carry a Vanilla Color Stabilizer that is designed to be used specifically in lotions and washes: http://www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com/ProductDetail.aspx?CatalogID=1&GroupID=11&CategoryID=1004&ProductID=3562&ProductName=Crafters+Choice%e2%84%a2+Vanilla+Color+Stabilizer+-+Lotions+-+Washes

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 25, 2013

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No, it is designed to be used with CP soap. Due to the caustic nature of lye solution, the formulation has to withstand higher PHs.

Posted By: Heather   |   Date: June 30, 2014

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Posted By: Constance   |   September 26, 2013

"When adding VC Stabilizer to fragrance should I decrease the oil in the CP recipe ounce for ounce? I mixed per instructions, however, ended up with an oil slick on the surface of the finished product. Then realized I probably made an error by not decreasing the oil elsewhere. Any thoughts?"

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Hello, It sounds as if you may have not mixed the color stabilizer in properly. You should be 1 part stabilizer to two parts fragrance for fragrance oils with under 10% vanilla. Fragrances with 10% or higher of vanilla you want to use it one part stabilizer to one part fragrance oil. WSP recommends letting the mixture sit for two minutes before adding it in to your batch. You should not have to decrease the oils in your recipe at all. Thank you for your question Erin

Posted By: Erin   |   Date: September 28, 2013

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Try only superfatting to 3% if you use stabilizer. This will help accomodate for the extra oil.

Posted By: Heather   |   Date: June 30, 2014

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Posted By: Samantha   |   February 08, 2014

"When calculating a recipe, is your stabilizer and fragrance percentages calculated separate or should your fragrance percentage be calculated with the stabilizer included?"

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Staff Answer When calculating a recipe your FO percentage should be for your modified FO(FO + Stabilizer = modified FO) Please feel free to call customer service for further assistance. 1-800-359-0944

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: February 10, 2014

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Posted By: Celestina   |   October 05, 2013

"Does the scent of this product come through in finished/cured soap?"

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No, there is no odor with the stabilizer. I use it often in my soaps.

Posted By: FELICIA   |   Date: October 07, 2013

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While it may have a slight odor itself, the stabilizer does not smell in the finished product. Make sure to mix it in well.

Posted By: valerie   |   Date: December 25, 2013

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Posted By: Adam   |   December 23, 2013

"Hi there, Is there a reason there is a different Vanilla Stabilizer for MP vs CP? I currently use another supplier who is out of stock that only carriers a "generic" one (that I've had no problems with in my CP soap). Given that the CP version as WSP is 2x the price of the MP version am trying to understand if the MP will not work? Thanks!"

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Staff Answer Hello Adam, Our Vanilla Color Stabilizers are formulated to work at different PH levels. CP has a higher PH than MP. Therefore, the Stabilizer for MP soap will not be able to withstand the effects of the higher PH that occur during the CP process. Thank you for your question.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 23, 2013

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Posted By: Carolyn   |   September 10, 2013

"Do I add this stabilizer strictly to the fragrance oil? Or does it get mixed in with the soap mixture before adding the vanilla fragrance oil?? Thanks! "

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Staff Answer It gets mixed in with the fragrance just prior to adding to the product. You are modifying the fragrance oil to reduce the effects of vanilla. You are actually compounding a new non-browning fragrance oil with the stabilizer.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 10, 2013

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Posted By: Susan   |   August 27, 2013

"If I mix the fragrance oil/stabilizer 1:1, do I add all that liquid to my soap, or just the tablespoon or so that I would normally add? "

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Staff Answer Most people then add all of the liquid to the soap. For really strong fragrances, you can add just half. If you find your soap is too soft with the added fluid (maybe due to other additives) then you will need to decrease the amount of fragrance to 3/4 of the fluid.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 28, 2013

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Posted By: Kennedy   |   February 24, 2013

"The only ingredient listed is "fragrance". Is that how I should label this on my product?"

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Staff Answer Since you are blending this ingredient with your fragrance oil, you are actually compounding your own new fragrance oil. Therefore, the term "fragrance" is all you need to list on your ingredient label.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 20, 2013

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