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International Nomenclature of Cosmetic Ingredients (INCI):
Cocamidopropyl Betaine

Common Name Ingredient Listing (FDA Approved):
Cocamidopropyl Betaine

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Posted By: Stephen   |   September 01, 2019

"I recently read an article that classified Cocamidopropyl Betaine as an irritant due to possible cross contamination with dimethylaminopropylamine and I’m wondering if there is the possibility that your product contains this contaminant? Thank you! "

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Staff Answer DMAPA (dimethylaminopropylamine) is used in the manufacturing of the cocamidopropyl betaine but there is no residual content after processing is complete.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 18, 2019

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Posted By: Lori   |   September 13, 2019

"Do you know... is this the same thing as "Cocoa Betaine" ?"

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Staff Answer Yes, this is the same as cocamidopropyl betaine.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 13, 2019

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Oops, I meant "Coco" Betaine, not Cocoa. So, just to clarify, the "Cocamidopropyl Betaine" that you sell is the same as "Coco Betaine?" There is conflicting information online that these are the same. Thanks!

Posted By: Lori   |   Date: September 13, 2019

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Staff Answer Yes, coco betaine is the same thing as cocamidopropyl betaine.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 13, 2019

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Posted By: Laurie   |   August 15, 2019

"Can Bubble Up be used as shampoo, or would it be drying for skin and hair? Would hair become brittle if used on its own?"

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Staff Answer We would not recommend using this straight on the hair but added to a shampoo base or an additive for a syndet shampoo bar. This would be drying to the hair if used in a large concentration.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 15, 2019

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Posted By: Danna   |   July 28, 2019

"Can this be used in a sugar scrub and how? Thank you! "

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Staff Answer Yes, you can use Bubble Up in a sugar scrub. This can be added to your sugar scrub base as a regular additive. Since it is a liquid, it blends in very easily. Here is a link to some recipes where we have used Bubble Up: https://www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com/products/bubble-up.aspx?Mode=VIDEOS

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: July 29, 2019

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Thank you! One more question, can this be a substitute of any soapy ingredients to make the scrub bubbly (like for example castile soap or any other bubbly ingredient). And like iss this similar to potassium cocoate? Thank u :)

Posted By: Danna   |   Date: July 29, 2019

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Staff Answer This should be a suitable substitute for any liquid soap but you would need to test any product to be sure it performs properly. This ingredient is very similar to potassium cocoate.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: July 29, 2019

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Posted By: Deidre   |   May 31, 2019

"I am making a shampoo bar, I'd like to lower the ph, bringing it closer to neutral - lye water results in a higher ph, I have read that cocamidopropyl Betain would help with lowering the ph? At which part of the process should I add? How should I factor in the lye value?"

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Staff Answer You might try one of our shampoo bar recipes without lye. The average pH is around 4.5-6. https://www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com/handmade101/how-to-make-recipes/nail-and-hair-care.aspx?TypeFilter=0&FBK=shampoo+bar&Submit=&FBI1=SCI+noodles

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: June 04, 2019

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Posted By: Rachel   |   May 20, 2019

"Is this product water soluble?"

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Staff Answer Yes, this product is water soluble.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: May 20, 2019

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Posted By: Marta   |   May 14, 2019

"Can I use Bubble Up in the melt and pour soap base? If I can how much is recommend by pound? "

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Staff Answer You can add a small amount to the soap base. Keep in mind the soap will hold up to 6% total additives, including fragrance. You can start with a small percentage, 1-2%, then add more if you feel it is needed.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: May 14, 2019

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Posted By: annette   |   April 16, 2019

"Can add this to bath truffles instead on slsa"

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Staff Answer You can use Bubble Up, but the recipe will need to be adjusted. Since this is a liquid and SLSa is a powder, you will need to cut down on the amount of Bubble Up used or cut back on another liquid that is in your recipe.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: April 17, 2019

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Posted By: Lora   |   April 13, 2019

"Can this be added to bath salts and how so?"

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Staff Answer This would be hard to do as it would then make the salts a liquid product. You might want to consider mixing Lathanol Powder in with your bath salts which would be much easier to incorporate.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: April 15, 2019

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Posted By: Marina   |   April 14, 2019

"Is there any difference between Bubble Up and actual product under label “Cocamidopropyl Betaine” that you carry? If so, what are the specific differences so that I can choose the right product to buy?"

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Staff Answer These products are very similar but have slightly different specs and are from different suppliers. Either would work well in your formula.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: April 15, 2019

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Posted By: Kelly   |   April 13, 2019

"Is there a formula using bubble up to make bubble solution. I have a bubble machine at my shop and put it outdoors and have not found a recipe that works and pay $25 a gallon for bubble solution. I'd like to see if I can use this with water to make my own more cost efficiently."

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Staff Answer We have not tested Bubble Up in a bubble solution. You would need to test this out. In doing research, there are quite a few recipes online for this type of product.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: April 15, 2019

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Posted By: Julicia   |   March 27, 2019

"I used bubble up and my body wash is too thick. what can I use to thin it out."

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Staff Answer If you have not added the fragrance yet, that will usually thin out the product. You can add additional body wash to thin it out. You might also add a small amount of hydrosol which will also give your product label appeal. Be sure to stay under 5% additives or you will need additional preservatives.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: March 28, 2019

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Posted By: Cynita   |   March 26, 2019

"Is bubble up a good additive to add to foaming bath whip to help restore bubbles after adding oils? If so, how much should be added to 16oz. of foamimg bathwhip if I add 2oz of oils. Thanks, Cynita"

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Staff Answer You can add Bubble Up to your foaming bath whip. You will need to test to see how much to add. We don't know how the oil has affected your product and how much you would like your product to bubble.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: March 27, 2019

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Posted By: Dianna   |   February 23, 2019

"Would this be considered a detergent if added to your detergent free MP soap base to boost the lather? Would the soap still be considered detergent free? Thank You"

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Staff Answer This is considered a detergent so this would not keep the soap detergent free if added. You can add some honey powder to the soap which can help boost the lather and still keep it detergent free.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: February 26, 2019

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Posted By: Chelsea   |   January 21, 2019

"What is the percentage of active matter in your cocamidopropyl betaine? I need it to complete my shampoo formulation. Thank you."

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Staff Answer If you look at the SDS Sheet for this product, there is information listed under Section 3. Please let us know if you need further information.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: January 22, 2019

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Posted By: Sonja   |   January 14, 2019

"Can this be used instead of SLSA in bath bombs?"

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Staff Answer You can use a small amount of this in your bath bombs. Since this is a liquid, you need to be careful about the powder starting to fizz.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: January 15, 2019

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Posted By: Candice   |   January 02, 2019

"Can this be used instead of SLSa? Do they provide similar qualities? What are the differences?"

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Staff Answer They are both lathering agents. You did not say what you were making so it is hard to know which product would be best in your recipe.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: January 03, 2019

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Posted By: rex   |   November 19, 2018

"I just bought a gallon jug of bubble up & it's a yellow color, however the last jug I got from wsp was completely clear. Can you tell me why it's changed & how? Thank you"

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Staff Answer The Bubble Up normally has a golden tint to it. The product picture on our website shows the normal color. Products have a range of specification when produced. The color can be a golden color or more towards a clearer liquid.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: November 20, 2018

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Posted By: Jennifer   |   October 09, 2018

"I've made 100% olive oil liquid soap paste via the cold process liquid soap method. I'd like my soap to have more bubbles. Could Bubble Up be added to a homemade liquid soap paste to increase the lather? Do I add to the paste prior to dilution or do I add during the dilution process (while adding water/preservative)? What percentage should be added? Thank you!"

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Staff Answer We have not personally tried this but from researching, we found others add the Cocamidopropyl Betaine as a second surfactant in their recipe at around 15% of total surfactants. Others have added to the paste. You may need to experiment to see what works best for you.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: October 10, 2018

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Posted By: Alexis   |   August 10, 2018

"I want to add this to the clear bubble bath base to increase bubbles, what is the usage rate?"

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Staff Answer There is no actual usage rate for this ingredient. We recommend starting small and adding until your product produces the desired amount of bubbles. In one of our recipes, we added about 9.5% Bubble Up to 32 oz. of Bubble Bath.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 13, 2018

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Posted By: Delaney   |   July 25, 2018

"How many fluid ounces is 1 pound equivalent to?"

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Staff Answer One pound is equal to 16 ounces.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: July 27, 2018

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Posted By: Susan   |   June 29, 2018

"Can I use this as is for bubble bath for children?"

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Staff Answer Yes, this can be used for a children's bubble bath. As with any other product, care should be taken to keep out of eyes.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: July 02, 2018

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Posted By: n/a   |   May 17, 2018

"If this is used in a recipe with only oil soluble ingredients does a preservative need to be added since the Bubble Up is water soluble? Thanks!"

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Staff Answer This will not need a preservative.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: May 17, 2018

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Posted By: Gwennie   |   May 08, 2018

"Can Bubble Up be used to increase lather/bubble in CP or HP soap?"

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Staff Answer We have used this in a shampoo bar to add lather. Here is a link to this recipe. You may need to experiment on how much to add to your recipe. http://www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com/handmade101/how-to-make-recipes/conditioning-shampoo-bars.aspx

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: May 09, 2018

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Posted By: Brandon M.   |   April 12, 2018

" An I use this product in melt and pour to get a better lather? If not what would your recommendation be?"

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Staff Answer To add additional lather to MP soap, you can add Bubble Up, Lathanol Powder or Honey Powder.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: April 13, 2018

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Posted By: Tammy   |   March 29, 2018

"I am making bubble bath for my granddaughter when I added fragrance oil it got chunky instead of smooth and settles at top I can't pour out of bottle I have to squeeze hard to push the thickness out then the rest is smooth is there something I need to add so its not chunky. Thank you."

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Staff Answer It sounds like you need a EO/FO Modifier or Polysorbate 20 to blend the fragrance oil with the water-based bubble bath. You might try warming the bottle in hot water to see if the thickness on the bottom will melt. We are not sure why this would happen.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: April 02, 2018

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Posted By: ELIZABETH   |   April 01, 2018

"Are there sulfates in this product?"

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Staff Answer Cocamidopropyl Betaine is the only ingredient in this product and this is not a sulfate.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: April 02, 2018

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Posted By: Mariano    |   March 06, 2018

" "Would this product be considered natural or sintetic ?""

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Staff Answer This product is made from coconut oil but is not a natural product.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: March 08, 2018

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Posted By: Vani   |   February 12, 2018

"I would like to use this in the Melt and Pour detergent free bases. How much do you recommend?"

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Staff Answer We would recommend adding 1-2% to your total base.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: February 14, 2018

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Posted By: Lynne   |   February 09, 2018

"Can Bubble Up be used to replace a portion of the glycerin in bubble bars? Thank you!"

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Staff Answer This is something we have not tested. We find glycerin works very well so we have not looked for a substitute. Please let us know if you try this and how it works for you.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: February 12, 2018

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Posted By: Diane   |   February 06, 2018

"Can you use Bubble Up in a shaving soap recipe?"

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Staff Answer Yes, you can use this ingredient to make a shave soap.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: February 07, 2018

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Posted By: Cheyenne   |   February 01, 2018

"When mixed with baking soda and citric acid, can Bubble Up cause them to react prematurely?"

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Staff Answer Yes, since this is water soluble, it can cause the mixture to fizz. If you would like to add bubbles to your bath fizzies, you may want to use lathanol powder.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: February 02, 2018

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Posted By: kim   |   November 21, 2017

"Can this be used in bath whip and sugar scrub recipes? If so approx how much to 4oz?"

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Staff Answer This additive is used mainly with liquid washes and bubble bar recipes. You would need to test if adding to the products you listed.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: November 21, 2017

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Posted By: Sheila   |   November 01, 2017

"Is "Bubble Up" your brand name for Cocamidopropyl Betaine? Is it the same thing as Cocamidopropyl Betaine. And can it be used as an alternative for Cocamidopropyl Betaine in a recipe that calls for Cocamidopropyl Betaine?"

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Staff Answer "Bubble Up" is our name given to this product. Cocamidopropyl Betaine is the only ingredient in the product, so it could certainly be used as an alternative.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: November 02, 2017

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Posted By: Rachelle   |   October 02, 2017

"What percent active is your Cocamidopropyl Betaine?"

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Staff Answer The percentage is 29-31%.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: October 27, 2017

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Posted By: Katie   |   September 04, 2017

"I have Bubble Up in my inventory and I was wondering if it can be used in Conditioning Shampoo in place of the Bubble Wash Thickener?"

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Staff Answer The Bubble Up will add lather to the shampoo but may not thicken like the Bubble Wash Thickener would. You would need to test this to be sure you get the proper outcome for your product.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 07, 2017

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Posted By: Nicole   |   June 10, 2017

"I do not see the basic direction/guidelines for usage rates on the product page. Are these listed somewhere else on the site? Thanks!"

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Staff Answer We do not have a specific usage rate for this product. We have used this in recipes from 1% up to 10% but you can add more if your base will hold it.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: June 13, 2017

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Posted By: Stephanie   |   May 23, 2017

"Can I add this to you foaming bath whip?"

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Staff Answer Yes, you can add Bubble Up to the Foaming Bath Whip. This base will accept the additive very nicely.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: May 24, 2017

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Posted By: Christian   |   April 01, 2017

"I was wondering what the suggested usage rate is for adding to a bubble bar recipe? And if it can be used along with SLSa? Thanks in advance."

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Staff Answer This can be used from 1-10% in your product. You can combine this along with SLSa. In our bubble cake recipes, we have used both of these ingredients.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: April 05, 2017

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Posted By: Bella    |   February 07, 2017

"Is your bubble up heat resistant?"

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Staff Answer Yes the bubble up can resist temperatures up to 212° F

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: February 07, 2017

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Posted By: Dianne   |   May 11, 2016

"Can this be used on the face?"

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Staff Answer This product is safe for the face but it is recommended to be used to increase bubbles in a product rather than as a facial product.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: May 17, 2016

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Posted By: Debbie   |   April 19, 2016

"Why would you not recommend this in M&P soap? What would be the difference if you can add it to body wash?"

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Staff Answer We have not tested Bubble Up in our MP Soap bases but there is no reason why this coconut oil based product could not be added. Our premium bases give the most bubbles and they accept up to 6% total additives. If you add the typical 3% fragrance then we recommend adding only up to 3% of bubble up as your final additive. Since we have not tested it in MP soap bases we can not guarantee that it will increase the bubbling properties of your soap.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: April 21, 2016

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Posted By: Mary   |   March 18, 2016

"Sometime ago, I purchased Bubble Wash Concentrate. Is this the same product? If not, what are the uses for the concentrate. Can this be used in foaming hand soap? It appears to no longer be available. "

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Staff Answer The concentrate was used for body wash, shower gel, bubble bath and some other products and we no longer carry it or have a substitute for that particular product beside our less concentrated Liquid Suspension Soap Base. The bubble up is used to amplify bubbles in washes but isn't a base product as the concentrate was.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: March 22, 2016

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Posted By: Melinda   |   March 15, 2016

"What is the shelf life ?"

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Staff Answer We recommend using all products within a year of purchase, and all products created with raw materials within a year of production.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: March 16, 2016

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Posted By: Momo   |   January 15, 2016

"Can this be applied directly onto the skin? I want to make a body wash and i was gonna use this as a base along with soome other oils!! Is this ok? I dont like using sls etc"

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Staff Answer Hi Momo, we have not tested Bubble Up as a base so that would be something you would have to test out. I would recommend to test out with a small batch to determine optimal results.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: January 22, 2016

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Posted By: Kimberley   |   October 16, 2015

"How much of this do I put in a 2pound melt and pour base?"

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Staff Answer Bubble up is a liquid additive that is only recommended for use in Liquid Soap Bases. I would not recommend adding Bubble Up to a MP Soap Base.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: October 20, 2015

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Posted By: Chad   |   August 26, 2015

"I'm interested in adding this to the Crafters Choice™ Pet Shampoo for sale on your website. I did not see any recommended ratios listed for Bubble Up on the product details page. If I was going to add this to 1 Gallon of Crafters Choice™ Pet Shampoo, do you have a recommended ratio? I'm sure I'll tweak as needed, but I obviously don't want to put 4oz of it in if I only need 2 tablespoons of it for 1 gallon of shampoo."

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Staff Answer Bubble Up can be used in a liquid soap base at 1-100%. I personally would not recommend exceeding more than 5% in a liquid soap/shampoo base as this additive has a very thin viscosity and will thin your liquid soap/shampoo. I would start at the low end and increase as desired.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 27, 2015

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Posted By: Lee Ann   |   August 11, 2015

"Hello, I used this to thicken a liquid hand soap that thinned after adding Hello Sugar FO. After this was added, I found the hand soap to be drying to my hands. It was not prior to adding this even after the FO had been added. Is there anything I can add at this point to make it less drying? If there is, please tell me what and how to use it. If there is not but you have other suggestions please include them. Thanks."

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Staff Answer Bubble Up is commonly used as a secondary foaming agent in liquid washes. It will help create more suds in your product. If you are interested in creating a thicker liquid wash, we would recommend using our Bubble Wash Thickener. You may want to try adding more of the liquid hand soap base thereby reducing the amount of the bubble up per ounce of base.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 12, 2015

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Posted By: Kim   |   May 23, 2014

"Can this be used for CP Soap? To add more lather & bubbles? Thanks"

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Staff Answer We have not yet had the opportunity to test this product in CP. I see no reason why it wouldn't work but it will require testing on your part if you wish to use it in CP soap.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: May 30, 2014

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I have used this product in my Coffee cold processed soap and it had noticeably increased the lather and bubbles. I added approximately 1/2 oz. to 1 oz. to a 14# batch at trace. It worked so well that I am ordering more. This is a must have if lather and bubbles are what you need.

Posted By: Lesa   |   Date: February 05, 2015

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Posted By: Alexandria   |   September 22, 2014

"Can this be used in place of SLSA in bubble cakes, or is it an additive to boost the effects of the SLSA? "

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Staff Answer SLSa is a powder whereas Bubble Up is a liquid. Substituting one for the other will most likely affect your finished product. You will need to test this substitution to determine if it will work in your recipe.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 26, 2014

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Posted By: Jessica   |   September 15, 2014

"Would this product be considered natural?"

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Staff Answer No, this product is not certified natural and should not be labeled as such when used in your products.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 16, 2014

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Posted By: Constance   |   September 08, 2014

"Can this be used in bath fizzies? Or does it contain water? Will it cause early reactions & fizzing?"

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Staff Answer Yes it can. But your usage rates of this product in your Bath Fizzie will affect the outcome.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 08, 2014

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Posted By: Maria   |   August 14, 2014

"Can this be used in Shampoo to thicken it up a bit?...I used half a cup for 48 ounces/3 pounds of shampoo, was that too much or was that a good amount?...want to make sure.thanks!"

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Staff Answer Bubble Up is not a thickener. It will only increase the amount of bubbles your product produces.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 19, 2014

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Posted By: chris   |   July 18, 2014

"Can this be used in mp? "

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Staff Answer Yes, you can use this in MP soap. However, this is a liquid additive and when combined with your fragrance should not be added in quantities greater than 3%.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: July 24, 2014

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Posted By: Edwina   |   June 13, 2014

"I have had a problem with fragrance oils thinning body washes and bubble bath. I bought the bubble up because it says it will thicken liquid washes and produce Hollywood bubbles. The bubble up worked great until I added the fragrance oil. So I bought FO & EO modifier and added that to the fragrance oil, added this mixture to the bubble bath, then added 10% of the bubble up and the finished product is very watery and thin. What am I doing wrong?"

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Staff Answer If you are still having trouble with the Fragrance Oil thinning the liquid wash, we would recommend Xanthan Gum as a thickener. This product works great to help with this issue and, when combined with the Bubble Up, should give you a thicker product with excellent foam and lather.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: June 18, 2014

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Posted By: Bessina   |   May 23, 2014

"How would I incorporate bubble up into soap bars and in liquid soap? "

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Staff Answer Bubble Up can be added to a soap bar or a liquid soap in the same manner you would add any other liquid additive. I would recommend a usage rate of 3-10%

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: May 30, 2014

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Posted By: Michelle   |   May 28, 2014

"Your product description references bubble cake recipes. I don't find any bubble cake recipes in your list of recipes. Please assist."

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Staff Answer We are still testing our recipe and have not posted it as of yet. Be sure to subscribe to our Handmade eMagazine to be sure you don't miss any of our new recipes. http://www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com/Newsletters.aspx

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: May 29, 2014

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