Preservative - Water Soluble PF

International Nomenclature of Cosmetic Ingredients (INCI):
Propylene Glycol (and) Diazolidinyl Urea (and) Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

Common Name Ingredient Listing (FDA Approved):
Propylene Glycol, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

Directions:

DIRECTIONS: Slowly stir into liquids at a temperature below 122°F (50°C). Common uses for this product are clear gels 0.1-0.5%, laundry soaps 0.1-0.5%, fabric softeners 0.1-0.5%, dish soaps 0.1-0.5%, lotions and creams 0.1-0.5% and water based formulations 0.1-0.5%. This product preserves foaming washes, high water content formulations and any formulation pH.

TIPS: This product is heat sensitive and should be added at a temperature of 122°F (50°C) or below. The recommended usage rates are provided only as a guideline to proper preservation. All new formulations should be tested to ensure preservative efficacy. This preservative has a thicker consistency and should be measured by weight, as a dropper may be difficult to use.

STORAGE: Store in an airtight, cool, dark location. When stored properly, best used within 1 year from date of purchase.

WARNING: Not approved for lip products.  Not to be used in aerosols.

CAUTION: For external use only. Keep out of reach of children and pets.

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Posted By: Soo   |   January 03, 2021

"Is this same as preservative-sorbic acid +2pf? "

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Staff Answer No, they are different preservatives.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: January 04, 2021

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Posted By: Ollie   |   December 28, 2020

"I'm looking to make a shower gel that consists of Rose Water, Apple Cider Vinegar, Castille Soap and Carrier Oils. Will this preservative work? "

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Staff Answer If the pH of your recipe is between 3-8 it will work.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 30, 2020

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Posted By: Krisalyn   |   December 27, 2020

"Can this be used in a salt scrub consisting of sea salt, rice bran oil, essential oils, and shea butter?"

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Staff Answer This can only be used to preserve water based products, your recipe seems to be oil based so it would not work.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 28, 2020

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Posted By: deonshae    |   December 19, 2020

"I am making a homemade face/scalp cleanser which will have: Castile soap, distilled water infused with chamomile, jojoba oil, sweet almond oil, tea tree oil and lavender oil. Will this preservative work ?"

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Staff Answer Yes, this is an acceptable preservative for a face soap.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 21, 2020

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Posted By: Nikki   |   November 17, 2020

"Hi, Im making bath bombs with a whipped topping using meringue, confectioners sugar and SLSa and was wondering if this is a suitable preservative. It says its not lip safe which concerns me about using this in bath water. If its not bath safe then what would you recommend? Thanks in advance!"

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Staff Answer We do not recommend using this in bath bombs as it is not lip safe. You can use Preservative - Phenonip

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: November 18, 2020

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Posted By: Mary   |   November 02, 2020

"Is this preservative the same as Germaben II E? Thank you."

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Staff Answer No, this is comparable to Germall Plus.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: November 05, 2020

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Posted By: Michelle   |   October 31, 2020

"What is the shelf life of preservative -Water Soluble PF?"

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Staff Answer We guarantee our products for 1 year from purchase date.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: November 02, 2020

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Posted By: Tamisha   |   October 27, 2020

"I made a body butter with 5 butters, 7 carrier oil, aloe vera gel and EO and it can be used on the body as well as on your hair what is the best preservative to use just in case it comes in contact with water and how much of the preservative should I use "

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Staff Answer A recommendation would be Preservative - Phenonip. It is oil soluble and commonly used in lotion and shampoos. The usage rate is .25% - 1%.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: October 28, 2020

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Posted By: Rockzinsky   |   October 28, 2020

"Hello. I made a hair mask with olive oil, avocado butter, coconut oil, baobab oil and BTMS 25. Do i need this preservative? "

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Staff Answer If there is no water in your formula, no. If you are worried during use that water will become incorporated, yes.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: October 28, 2020

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Posted By: Sandria   |   October 24, 2020

"Can I use this to make an avocado face mask? Ingredients include aloe Vera, avocados, oils, and powers "

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Staff Answer Without knowing the whole recipe we are unable to answer. Using fresh avocados will spoil and this type of preservative would not prevent that.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: October 26, 2020

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Posted By: Rick   |   October 23, 2020

"Can I use this preservative in formulations that call for Phenonip as the preservative?"

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Staff Answer Phenonip is oil soluble and this preservative is water soluble so it would not work.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: October 26, 2020

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Posted By: Gabrielle   |   October 18, 2020

"Does this preservative have a strong smell? Like how optiphen can change the scent of a product will this do that as well?"

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Staff Answer It is listed as having a mild characteristic odor. It should not change the scent of the product though.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: October 19, 2020

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Posted By: Amanda   |   October 15, 2020

"I am trying to make a liquid black soap. I plan to melt the soap in purified water. Will using this preservative be ok and prevent the soap from going bad or smell?"

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Staff Answer Liquid black soap is not something we have tested here. As long as the pH is between 3-8 and the preservative does not go over 122ºF it should work. You will be responsible for testing your own formulation though.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: October 16, 2020

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Posted By: Tamisha   |   October 11, 2020

"I made a body butter with 5 butters, coconut oil, pure vitamin E oil, aloe vera gel and EO and I forgot to put in my preservative is it to late to add because it has now solidified. If so how much do I need to add "

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Staff Answer If this is everything in your body butter it does not sound like you would need a preservative as there is no water in the formula. Butters and oils do not need preserved unless you plan on incorporating water. Vitamin E also helps to extend shelf life.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: October 12, 2020

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Posted By: Alexandra   |   September 27, 2020

"Hi I’m trying to make a room spray that is 2oz it is pretty much fully filled with distilled water and the rest essential oil drops, lavender, & pink sea salt. Is this the best preservative to use and How much preservative should I use ? Can I also add alcohol (vodka) to my mix as a natural preservative or can I additionally add your preservative as well ?"

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Staff Answer Yes, you can use this preservative for a room spray. We have not tested preserving with a mixture of vodka and preservative so this is something you will have to test on your own. Usage rate for this is generally .1% - .5%. You can call customer service and they may be able to help further.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 29, 2020

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Posted By: Gabrielle   |   September 16, 2020

"Can I use this in a sugar scrub with turmeric powder? "

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Staff Answer Yes, you can use this in your sugar scrub formulation.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 17, 2020

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Posted By: Gabrielle   |   September 04, 2020

"Can I use this to preserve rice water mixed with different oils and aloe vera gel? If so, for how long would it be preserved?"

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Staff Answer This preservative is water soluble so you an add it to the rice water and then incorporate. Common usage levels are 0.1% - 0.5%. You would be responsible for the testing of your specific formulation.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 04, 2020

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Posted By: Michelle   |   August 21, 2020

"I made a Lotion and had to run out and it cooled to room temp.Can Germall Plus be added at room temp? It says below 120 but I'm not sure how low. "

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Staff Answer Yes, this can be added at room temperature.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 24, 2020

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Posted By: Destiny   |   August 19, 2020

"I am a bit confused. When making a product do you add preservatives to each individual ingredient or just to the final mixture?"

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Staff Answer You would only need to add this to the final mixture, not to each ingredient.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 20, 2020

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Posted By: Maritza    |   August 09, 2020

"What is the proper formula for this? I'm attempting to use it in whipped scrubs but trying to figure out the correct amount. is the ratio used with an oil or the total ozs of a product?"

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Staff Answer The directions for usage are from .1-.5% of the total weight of your product. For instance, if making 16 oz. of product, you would add between 0.016 oz. to 0.08 oz.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 11, 2020

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Posted By: Jenny   |   July 31, 2020

"I've already purchased an aloe-based anhydrous toner with 2 preservatives already present (ethylhexyl & phenoxyethanol) but I'd like to add green tea to the formulation. Since the green tea addition (organic matcha powder dissolved in purified water) is a small amount, would you recommend I add a little more preservative to it, and if so how much of this one would you recommend? Thanks!"

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Staff Answer Yes, you would want to add more preservative for the additional water. You would want to add up to .5% of the additional water you are adding. But it is your responsibility to test to be sure it performs properly with your product as we do not know the entire formulation.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 03, 2020

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Posted By: Corwin   |   June 16, 2020

"Can I use this Preservative to add to Homemade simple Hyaluronic Acid Serum? If so, at what percentage do I use/add to my Hyaluronic Acid Serum?"

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Staff Answer As long as your product is water based, this preservative should be fine. The usage levels are listed under the Directions tab. The common usage levels are 0.1-0.5% of the total weight of the product.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: June 17, 2020

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Posted By: Aselah   |   June 11, 2020

"I am Mixing Your Aloe Vera Gel With Jojoba Oil And Vitamin E Oil To Make A Face Moisturizer Can This Preservative Be Used To Preserve The Gel And Oils ? "

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Staff Answer The Aloe Vera Gel does already have a preservative added. If you are only adding the jojoba oil and Vitamin E, you would not need an additional preservative.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: June 12, 2020

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Posted By: Seluvaia   |   June 07, 2020

"I am making a whipped soap sugar scrub... using crafters choice foaming bath whip, detergent free three butter M&P, sugar, fragrance oil, and mica. Would this be suitable to put into my whipped soap sugar scrub, seeing as it is a soap and water will be introduced into it while being used in the shower? "

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Staff Answer This preservative would be fine to use in a foaming bath sugar scrub. You can also check out recipes we have made with the Foaming Bath Whip to see what preservatives we have used.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: June 08, 2020

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Posted By: Marisa   |   June 04, 2020

"Hello, I'm making a foaming bath soap recipe using about 1/2 lb of your melt and pour soap, including some oils and 1 cup of water, will this be the better preservative to use or Optiphen Plus? Thank you"

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Staff Answer We hope this is something you have tested already. You cannot make a liquid out of MP soap. If this recipe does work, we would probably recommend Optiphen Plus for this. Please check the pH of your product to be sure it is below 6. We also recommend letting this product sit for quite a while to see if anything grows. Or, having this challenge tested would be the best option to know for sure this product is properly preserved.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: June 04, 2020

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Posted By: Lou   |   June 03, 2020

"I am adding shea 50 to your Pearl sulfate-free body wash. Is this the preservative I would use since I am adding the Shea 50? Also what percentage for a 16 oz bottle?"

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Staff Answer You would only need to add a preservative if adding more than 5% Shea 50. If you are adding more than 5%, you can use this preservative. The directions state to use at 0.1-0.5%.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: June 04, 2020

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Posted By: Anush   |   May 18, 2020

"I have two questions about this preservative. I am making a soap based shaving product. 1. Can I add this preservative to shaving cream soap? Since this preservative is not safe to use in lip products, is it safe to use in shave products considering the fact that shaving might cause minor skin cuts? 2. Will this preservative mix with a thick creamy soap-base product with no additional water added after saponification? Thanks for your advice. "

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Staff Answer If you are making a shave soap containing sodium hydroxide, you would not need to add a preservative.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: May 18, 2020

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Thanks for your response. I understand that a bar soap would not require preservative, but this one is not a bar soap. It goes into a jar and will be exposed to water in the shower similar to whipped soap and liquid soap. The latter ones need preservative. Would this be safe to use in shaving products? If not, what would you recommend.

Posted By: Anush   |   Date: May 18, 2020

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Staff Answer Thank you for the explanation. You would need a preservative for this product. The Water Soluble PF would work fine. It is not safe in lip products but this is fine to use in a face product.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: May 19, 2020

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Posted By: Candy   |   April 27, 2020

"Would you recommend this preservative for my men's aftershave? It will contain witch hazel, glycerin, aloe, water, essential oils and herbal extracts."

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Staff Answer You can use this preservative for your aftershave. But it is your responsibility to test to be sure it performs properly with your product.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: April 27, 2020

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Posted By: Krystal   |   April 08, 2020

"Reading others' questions/answers have me confused... If a recipe/product is going to have Only a water type base, use This preserve... If it is going to have water and oil...use this or another type? Im trying to create a cheat sheet for preseratives and polys in which to use in what and when"

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Staff Answer Each preservative has a description for what it is best used in to help you know which one is best for use in your product. In addition to that, most people look at ingredients, temperature and pH restrictions.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: April 09, 2020

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Posted By: Ronda   |   March 05, 2020

"A previous question asks if this is considered vegan and the answer received was no. Can you expand on that please by adding which ingredient of the three is animal-based?"

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Staff Answer This preservative actually is considered to be vegan. We have updated previous answers to reflect this. Thank you.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: March 09, 2020

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Posted By: Krystalynn   |   January 30, 2020

"What is the shelf life on this Preservative - Water Soluble PF?"

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Staff Answer This preservative has a shelf life of 24 months from date of purchase if stored properly in a cool, dark area.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: January 31, 2020

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Posted By: Anush   |   January 27, 2020

"I am trying to make jelly soap embeds for bath fun for kids. It does not contain a ready base so no preservatives to start with. Can I use Water Soluble PF for my jelly soap embeds and would it be safe for kids to use during bath time?"

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Staff Answer This preservative should be safe for kids over 3 years of age as long as you stay within the recommended usage levels.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: January 27, 2020

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Posted By: Tiffany   |   January 21, 2020

"What's the difference between Germall Plus and Optiphen? If I understand correctly, if my product has water then I should use Germall, but if my product does not contain water and only contains oils I should use Optiphen. Is this correct? What if my product contains oils and water which should I use?"

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Staff Answer Both of these preservatives can be used for either water or oils since they do include body butters in their list of products. But, the Optiphen Plus states it preserves both water and oil products so probably would be the best option if your product contains both.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: January 21, 2020

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Posted By: Crystal   |   January 04, 2020

"I have purchased your Leucidal Liquid and AMTicide Coconut. Can a combination or one of the two be used as a replacement for this product in recipes. In particular, the Micellar Water recipe? Can you give replacement ratios please. Thank you. "

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Staff Answer We do state on our site that the AMTicide Coconut is best paired with either the Leucidal Liquid or Leucidal SF. Each has a usage level of 2-4% so the minimum you would want to use for each preservative is 0.63 oz. You need to use both at this amount.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: January 06, 2020

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Posted By: Crystal   |   January 01, 2020

"I am wanting to use this preservative to add to a oil based perfume. Will the work as far as keep the product clear and provide a longer shelf life? I use the FO modifier and it works wonders keeping the oil perfume clear but I want the product to last longer. "

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Staff Answer If you are making an oil based perfume, this preservative would not work as it is for a water soluble product. If your perfume is all oils, you would want to add vitamin E to act as an anti-oxidant to give the oils a longer shelf life.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: January 03, 2020

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Posted By: Dejaya   |   December 26, 2019

"I’m making a lip gloss using versagel and oils, would a preservative be needed and which would be the best one? "

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Staff Answer The preservative we have used in lip products is Phenonip at 0.5%.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 27, 2019

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Posted By: Maria   |   December 19, 2019

"Can this be used after the expiration date? or is it no good after that?"

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Staff Answer We would recommend using this no more than 6 months after the best used date.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 19, 2019

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Posted By: Squeaky Geek   |   September 12, 2019

"I am making a 16 oz batch of lotion, I am somewhat confused how much I should use because the recipes in your recipe section seem to have this preservative as 5 to 10 percent of the total weight but the recommendation claims .1 to .5 percent. How much of this preservative should be used?"

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Staff Answer If making 16 oz. of lotion, adding .5% of preservative would be .08 oz. (we would round this up to .10 oz.). We checked through all our recipes using this preservative and we did find 4 that were between 1-1.5% but nothing as high as 5-10%. We have adjusted these down to .5%. If you do find any that are that high, please let us know. Thank you.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 13, 2019

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Posted By: Patricia   |   August 11, 2019

"Hi! I'm new to soap making and want to try out some recipes I found. Would this be used for foaming soaps, jelly soaps and melt and pour? Thanks!"

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Staff Answer Melt and Pour soap does not need a preservative added. If you are using a ready-made base, that would also contain a preservative. You would need to look at each individual base and also look at what you are adding to that base to know if you need an additional preservative.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 12, 2019

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Posted By: Ashlee   |   July 26, 2019

"How much of this preservative would I use when making a sugar scrub with the following recipe? • 1 c ground coffee • 1 c sugar • 1/4 c coconut oil • 1/4 c apricot oil I know customers would use my scrubs in the shower, thus exposing them to moisture."

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Staff Answer The usage for this preservative is between 0.1-0.5%. If making a 20 oz. batch, you would add 0.02-0.10 oz. of preservative.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: July 29, 2019

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Posted By: Danna   |   July 23, 2019

"Can I also use this preservative for the soap dough recipe instead of the preservative ask for in the original whole sale supply plus soap dough recipe? Thank you"

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Staff Answer Yes, you can use this preservative instead of the Sorbic Acid + 2 PF. We would recommend using 1 ml per batch or 4 ml total for the recipe.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: July 24, 2019

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Posted By: Kimberly   |   July 08, 2019

"If this is used in a lotion that is left in a car, possibly over 122 degrees, would it no longer be effective?"

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Staff Answer Yes, it can effect the preservative and possibly the emulsion of the lotion.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: July 08, 2019

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Posted By: Victoria   |   June 13, 2019

"I've run out of the preservative sorbic acid + 2 pf (optiphen plus) that is used in the beer lotion recipe. Can I sub this preservative in a pinch? Thank you!"

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Staff Answer Using the Water Soluble PF would be fine for this recipe. You would want to decrease the amount as the maximum recommended usage is .5%. The usage for the original preservative was 1.25%. You would want to use 0.50 oz. of the Water Soluble PF for this recipe.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: June 13, 2019

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Posted By: Mary   |   May 28, 2019

"I read below that this preservative can be used for face masks. How long do u recommend testing this in a face mask? Also what do u think the best way to rest this is? For example if I had 5 containers with a varying about of preservative that is safe, do I just leave them exposed? And for how long? "

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Staff Answer The best way to test a product would be to have it challenge tested at a lab. If you are not able to do this, you can test on your own. Keep in a sealed jar and watch for at least six months. We are assuming there is a water soluble product in the mask. You will want to watch to see if any mold appears in any of the containers.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: May 29, 2019

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Posted By: Ashley   |   May 13, 2019

"Hi I want to make a 2oz body butter. Made with butters then oils but has a high potential to water exposure due to fragrances and use after a shower/bath. Would this be the preservative to use? If so how much should I use for a mostly butter oil recipe? Total weight being 2oz"

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Staff Answer You can use this preservative in a body butter. Usage levels are 0.1-0.5%. If adding to a 2 oz. batch, this would equate to 0.06-0.3 milliliters.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: May 14, 2019

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Posted By: Debbi   |   March 11, 2018

"I just made some goat milk lotion from a base you sell. I just saw a question that asked if Water Soluble-PF would prevent aloe juice added to the lotion from spoiling. I added aloe juice to the lotion i made but I wasn't aware that it would spoil. Do I need to dump all the lotion i made? I certainly don't want to sell spoiled lotion!"

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Staff Answer We would not recommend adding aloe juice to your lotion. You might try adding a little aloe vera gel to the base. This product does have a preservative added to it.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: March 12, 2018

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I add aloe liquid to my lotions all the time and I've never had any problems. I Do use an additional amount of preservative because of everything I add to my lotion. If you didn't use aloe liquid you'd have to thin things out with distilled water.

Posted By: Debbi   |   Date: February 16, 2019

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Posted By: eufemia   |   February 14, 2019

"Would this be the correct preservative to use in a water based lotion and water base face toner?"

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Staff Answer Yes, this preservative can be used in both these products. If you look at recipes made with this preservative, we have made both of these products.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: February 14, 2019

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Posted By: Krystal   |   February 05, 2019

"What are the differences between Preservative - Water Soluble -and- Preservative - Water Soluble PF??"

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Staff Answer The main difference is the Water Soluble PF is paraben free (PF). You would need to check the restrictions, such as pH, temperature and the product description to see which will work best with your product.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: February 06, 2019

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Posted By: Tina   |   February 03, 2019

"I am making an in shower solid lotion bar made with only butters. No water in recipe but will be introducted to water in the shower. Will this preservative be ok to use? If not what would you suggest? Thank you in advance. "

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Staff Answer We would recommend using either this Water Soluble PF preservative or Phenonip in your lotion bar.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: February 04, 2019

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Posted By: Stephanie   |   December 25, 2018

"Is this supposed to smell similar to dryer sheets, or laundry?"

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Staff Answer It smells like neither of these. The preservative does have a slight odor which does not affect the product.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 26, 2018

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Posted By: Stephanie   |   December 20, 2018

"It says that this world best for mostly water based recipes. Will it be effective in a mostly oil recipe as well? Like a thick cream? "

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Staff Answer We cannot say for sure if this preservative would work for your product. You would need to have your product challenge tested to be sure the preservative is effective. Here is a link to an article that might be helpful: http://www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com/handmade101/learn-to-make-articles/choosing-a-preservative.aspx

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 20, 2018

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Posted By: Chelsea   |   December 17, 2018

"To make my products FDA labeling acceptable, do I list Liquid Germal as my ingredient or do I list the chemical names like you did in your description (Propylene Glycol (and) Diazolidinyl Urea (and) Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate - i think that's what you listed)? Thank you."

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Staff Answer You would list the ingredients.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 17, 2018

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Posted By: Ann   |   September 10, 2018

"I make goat milk lotion and use germall plus as a preservative. How long will the lotion be good as I would like to put an expiration date on the bottles of lotion? "

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Staff Answer The lotion should be good for one year if preserved properly. You should keep a retain sample for your own testing.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 10, 2018

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Posted By: zoya   |   July 13, 2018

"can this be used in a face mask that has rose water or apple cider vinegar? If not what would you recommend?"

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Staff Answer Yes, this preservative can be used in a face mask.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: July 16, 2018

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Posted By: Lee Ann   |   May 31, 2018

"would this be the right preservative for diluting dye powder in water for future use? I want to have a base mixture that is prepared ahead of time, not each time i want to color something."

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Staff Answer We would recommend either this or the Preservative - Water Soluble.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: May 31, 2018

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Posted By: Home   |   May 23, 2018

"Preservative - Water Soluble PF If making sugar scrubs with coconut oil...... I would include this correct? Do I need heat this up to include? Seems like it would melt the sugar if so. "

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Staff Answer You should include a preservative when making a scrub. You would not heat this but add to your product after adding all other ingredients.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: May 25, 2018

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Posted By: Molly   |   May 04, 2018

"Can this product be used in a after-sun aloe based body mist? It is correct you can't use this in a spray? "

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Staff Answer This preservative is not recommended in an aerosol or spray. If making this type of product, we recommend using another preservative, such as Germaben II.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: May 07, 2018

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Posted By: Heather   |   April 25, 2018

"I’m going to make body butter, whipped soap and whipped sugar scrubs and I’d love to find a preservative to use for all of them if possible. Could I use this one?"

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Staff Answer Body butters are oil based and do not contain water. If your recipe is all oils/butters, you do not actually need a preservative, but an anti-oxidant to help keep the ingredients from going rancid. Water-based products do need a preservative and this one would be fine for both the whipped soap and sugar scrubs.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: April 27, 2018

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Posted By: Katie   |   March 26, 2018

"Can this preservative be used in facial scrubs? I know it says not to be used on the lips."

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Staff Answer Yes this can be used in facial scrubs. We would not recommend using this is a lip product, though.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: March 29, 2018

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Posted By: Billing   |   January 31, 2018

"Is this used in the same quantities as Germall Plus? And is it thick and syrupy like germall plus, or is it more liquidy? Thanks!"

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Staff Answer The directions state the usage level is 0.1-0.5%. This is the same product as Germall Plus but as stated in the product description, we can no longer call it by the trademark name. That is why all our preservatives are renamed for the ingredients they contain.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: February 05, 2018

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Posted By: Dominique.   |   January 04, 2018

"If im making an 4oz jar of scrub how much preservitive will i need to use"

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Staff Answer The recommended percentage for scrubs is 0.1-0.5%. For a 4 oz. jar, this would be between .004-.02 oz.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: January 05, 2018

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Posted By: Sheila   |   December 04, 2017

"Can Preservative - Water Soluble PF be used in a recipe that calls for Optiphen?"

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Staff Answer We would need to know the product you are adding this to but these are both water soluble preservatives.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 06, 2017

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Posted By: REDOLENT   |   November 05, 2017

"I am new to using this preservative. It is my first time. I would like to know how I determine how much preservative to use in a recipe. I had a look at your conversion chart and am wondering if the oz of product refers to how many oz there at the beginning of the recipe or after? I am looking to make an 8oz lotion (finished product). Can you advise what is the simple formula to use when calculating the preservative? Thanks!"

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Staff Answer For a lotion, the recommended usage is 0.1-0.5%. If you are making an 8 oz. lotion, that is what you would refer to. For 8 oz. of base, 0.5% would equal 1 ml of Germall Plus: http://www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com/PDFS/ConversionChart.pdf.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: November 08, 2017

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Posted By: Rock   |   September 10, 2017

"Is this safe for use in homemade toothpaste containing water, baking soda, coconut oil, and activated charcoal? If not, what should be used instead?"

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Staff Answer We would not recommend using this in a product that might be ingested. At this time, we do not carry a preservative for this type of product.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 11, 2017

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Posted By: Cheryl   |   July 05, 2017

"How do you test the efficacy of Germall Plus in liquid soap?"

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Staff Answer The best way to test this would be to send your product to a lab for challenge testing. You can do an online search for labs that will do this for you.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: July 07, 2017

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Posted By: Rebecca   |   May 31, 2017

"Is this product vegan?"

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Staff Answer This product can be considered vegan.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: June 01, 2017

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Posted By: Lauri   |   February 01, 2016

"I want to make lotion that contains Aloe Juice, will this preserve the lotion properly and keep the aloe from spoiling?"

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Staff Answer Hi Lauri, Germall Plus will keep bacteria from growing but it will not keep your juice from spoiling.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: February 05, 2016

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Posted By: jennifer   |   July 04, 2015

"Can I add this w/ the body wash solution, or do I need a stabelizer?"

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Staff Answer Yes, you can add the Germall Plus Liquid to a body wash without the use of a stabilizer. Our Vanilla Color Stabilizers are only needed if the fragrance you are using contains vanilla.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: August 04, 2015

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Thank you so very much! I always know if I have a question on anything the staff here answer promptly. Love this store!!

Posted By: jennifer   |   Date: December 23, 2015

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Posted By: kyong    |   December 12, 2015

"I'Ive just asked about rebatching the lotion recipe for miscalculating the amount of germall plus liquid ( I used 2% instead of 0.2%). After reheating, should I add the preservative again or just add more oils and water? (because after reheating the lotion the temperature is gonna pass above 122 F). Thank you , "

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Staff Answer Kyong,

We are so sorry to hear your batch didn't work out. It happens to the best of us! To save your batch first of all please don't reheat! Assuming that you have created a 1 lb batch we suggest creating 9 lbs of lotion WITHOUT preservatives and when it hardens you can mix the two finished products together.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 16, 2015

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Posted By: Paula   |   November 22, 2015

"Can I use Germall Plus in eye makeup remover that has distilled water as an ingredient?"

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Staff Answer Hi Paula - The only restriction that the manufacturer has given us is that is not safe for lip products.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: November 23, 2015

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Posted By: Alison    |   November 05, 2015

"I was wondering why the percentage is 0.1 - 0.5%. Does the preservative work less at 0.1%?"

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Staff Answer Hi Alison - The amount to use really depends on your formula. Formulas with a higher ratio of water will need more of the preservative than formulas with lower amounts of water. It is possible the preservative will work in your formula at 0.1%, but you will need to test to ensure preservative efficacy.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: November 05, 2015

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Ok so most of my lotion recipe is water, so I'm guessing the highest percentage is best.

Posted By: Alison    |   Date: November 05, 2015

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Posted By: Margarert   |   June 15, 2015

"Can this product be frozen and thawed to be used a little at a time ? Thank you "

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Staff Answer This product should not be stored in a frozen state.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: July 07, 2015

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Posted By: lwilliams   |   March 24, 2015

"Hi, I made a homemade leave in conditioner with liquid germall plus, could i add to this without ruining the stability of the preservative?"

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Staff Answer If you calculated your preservative based on the entire batch size of your conditioner then you should be able to add up to 5% additives without compromising the preservative. All new formulations should be challenge tested to ensure preservative efficacy.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: March 26, 2015

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Posted By: erica   |   March 15, 2015

"I'm interested in making a shampoo using the Crafter's Choice shampoo base and natural fruit juices. Which preservative is best suited for this project?"

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Germall plus will keep bacteria from growing but it will NOT keep your fruit juice from spoiling.

Posted By: Emily    |   Date: March 19, 2015

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Posted By: Michelle   |   February 19, 2015

"Hi, If I use Germall Plus Liquid, what is the usage rate? I have Germall Plus Liquid in stock but I just don't know how much to add to this recipe. Thanks. Michelle"

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Staff Answer The recommended usage rate for Germall Plus is 0.1-0.5% of your entire batch.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: February 19, 2015

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Posted By: Angelina   |   January 11, 2015

"I would like to start using this, I'm new at this, so what is the conversion table to like 8oz 16oz is their a simple way to figure out? thank you. "

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Staff Answer Our percentage conversion chart is a great tool: http://www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com/PDFS/ConversionChart.pdf

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: January 20, 2015

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Posted By: Theresa   |   December 26, 2014

"The listing said this is not to be used in spray or aerosols...why? Can you recommend a paraben-preservative for a body spray?"

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Staff Answer This preservative has been know to clog sprayers and aerosols. For this reason we do not recommend using it with a prayer or aerosol packaging. This is the only preservative we carry that is not recommended for aerosols or sprays. Any of our other preservatives would be fine depending on your formula.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 29, 2014

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Posted By: Rhae   |   December 21, 2014

"I bought this product because it is a preservative that contains no parabens, And used it in my CP soap. I am aware that the recommended temperature for using this ingredient properly is below 122 degrees, so i waited until my oils and lye reached 100 degrees to mix them together with Germall Plus. Is this acceptable usage for the product?"

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Staff Answer CP soap often continues to rise in temperature during the first 24 hours of the cure. Depending on how high the temperature rises it may cancel out the preservative. You will need to monitor your CP soap temperatures during this time. It has been our experience, however, that soap does not require a preservative.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 22, 2014

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Posted By: Rhae   |   December 21, 2014

"On your MSDS document Propylene Glycol; Diazolidinyl Urea; Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate were listed as the CAS name synonyms. Which name should I use to label this ingredient on my soap products? "

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Staff Answer The ingredient listing for this product is Propylene Glycol (and) Diazolidinyl Urea (and) Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 22, 2014

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Posted By: debra   |   October 09, 2014

"Diazolidinyl Urea - is this an animal based derivative? or synthetic? thanks."

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Diazolidinyl Urea is a chemical and does not come from animals.

Posted By: Samantha   |   Date: October 17, 2014

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Posted By: Bethany   |   September 18, 2013

"Can I use germall plus in Debbie's emulsified sugar scrub? I ran out of Phenonip. If I can use it in that scrub would I use 5 ml instead of 10 ml? Thanks for your help!!"

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Staff Answer Because the Emulsified Scrub is oil-based, you will need a preservative that is soluble in oil. Germaben II E is an appropriate alternative, as Germall Plus is water soluble.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: September 20, 2013

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Optiphen Plus would also be appropriate.

Posted By: Cindy   |   Date: May 13, 2014

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Posted By: Kimberly   |   April 16, 2014

"Which is better for lotion and similar recipes that may have oils and butter, germall plus liquid or germaben II?"

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Staff Answer Germall Plus is good with water based formulations. With oils and butters, we recommend using Germaben II or Germaben II E depending on the percent of oils/butters are in your recipe. Refer to the 'Directions' tab - it will guide you on which to use for your recipe, and how to use it.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: April 17, 2014

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Posted By: Susan   |   April 02, 2014

"Is this product formaldehyde free?"

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Staff Answer Germall Plus Liquid contains Diazolidinyl Urea which is known to be a formaldehyde releaser. So, because of this, we cannot say that it does not contain formaldehyde.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: April 02, 2014

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Posted By: Heidi   |   January 13, 2014

"What is the difference between germall plus, germaben II, and optiphen plus, and.... isnt there one more? Anyway, these all seem to do the same thing. Can you compare and contrast them? Explain how they are each meant to be used? Thanks so much! Heidi"

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Staff Answer Good question! Due to space restrictions in responding, what I can suggest is that you read the 'Overview' tab for each of the products. The main difference is that some are soluble in water only, and others in oil. There are differences with ingredients, what products to use them in, etc... But they are all preservatives.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: January 14, 2014

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The difference is that all, but Optiphen Plus contain Parabens. They are a cheap broad spectrum microbial, however they have been tentatively linked to cancer. Other differences are that some preservatives are for oil based recipes such as body butters and lotion bars and some are for recipes that contain water, such as lotions and creams.

Posted By: maria   |   Date: January 15, 2014

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Germall Plus is PARABEN FREE! I cannot speak to the others but the answer above is incorrect pertaining to Germall Plus.

Posted By: Vicki   |   Date: January 15, 2014

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Posted By: Ryan   |   December 17, 2013

"I purchased this in August 2013, it's now Dec. 2013, and I'm just getting around to using the Germall Plus Liquid. How long do I have until this product expires?"

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Staff Answer We recommend our products to be used within one year of purchase date.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 17, 2013

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Posted By: Lisa   |   December 09, 2013

"When making lotion does Germall Plus need to be added to the water before the oils are added, or can it be added to the lotion after the oils and water are combined?"

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Staff Answer Germall Plus does not need to be added prior to emulsification, the only recommendation is to add to the formula when temperature of the base is less than 122º F.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: December 10, 2013

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Posted By: Sherri   |   December 06, 2013

"Can I use Germall Plus instead of Phenonip or Optiphen? Thank you!"

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Hi, it really depends on the product that you are making and what it contains. Germall Plus is water soluble so can be added to the cool down phase of lotions or any water containing products. Optiphen plus can be used in the place of Germall Plus. However, Phenonip is great for products that contain only oil like lotion bars and oil based scrubs. However, It can be used to preserve lotion but has to be added to the heated oil phase of the formula.

Posted By: FelCie   |   Date: December 08, 2013

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Posted By: Stellar   |   November 21, 2013

"I want to use this product to preserve a hydrosol for use as a spray for my hair. Is this product suitable for extending the shelf life of a hydrosol for personal use? Also, this product says it shouldn't be used in sprays or aerosols, but I want to put mine in a little spritz bottle. Is that the same? "

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Hello, No, I would not recommend using this product in a hydrosol. Using it in this method would be using it as a spray or aerosol which is not recommend. Thank you Erin

Posted By: Erin   |   Date: November 25, 2013

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Germall Plus Liquid is not approved for aerosols because of the inclusion of Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate (IPBC). However, this does not include body misters like a spritz bottle but refers to pressurized sprays such as aerosols. It is suitable for products containing water so it would preserve a hydrosol.

Posted By: FelCie   |   Date: November 26, 2013

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Posted By: Laura   |   November 08, 2013

"Would it be possible to make lotion with this preservative in it, and then reheat it to add fratrance oils and to make it more pourable, as long as I dont heat about 120 degrees?"

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Staff Answer Yes, this should work fine as long as you do not heat your product above 122 degrees, then your preservative will become inactive and more will need to be used.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: November 12, 2013

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Posted By: aubree   |   October 24, 2013

"Can you please tell me for .6 ml of Germall Plus, how many drops is that (I'm using one of your plastic droppers)? Thanks again for providing me the chart guide, but I have no idea how ml are measured & don't know where I would get something that measures ml. Thank you."

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Staff Answer Using drops is not the most accurate way of measuring for ml. But we have found that approximately 25 drops are in 1ml. We suggest using the measurements on the side of the dropper. This definitely makes it easier to use, and more accurate. The first marking measurement is for .5ml. Since .6ml is needed in your recipe, adding only a little more, just right above the .5ml mark on the dropper should be what you need.

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: October 24, 2013

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Posted By: aubree   |   October 19, 2013

"I also wanted to know how much of the Germall Plus I'm supposed to put for one individual soap bar or one 4 oz jar of sugar scrub? In the directions online it says .5-1% but I don't know how many drops that means for individual portions. Thanks again for your help :) "

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Staff Answer You would need to calculate the percentage based on the weight of the product you are making. For example, 0.5% of 4 oz. is 0.6 ml. We have a Percentage Conversion Chart that will help you to calculate this. I attached a link to the chart below. http://www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com/PDFS/ConversionChart.pdf

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: October 22, 2013

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Posted By: aubree   |   October 12, 2013

"Hi, I'm looking for a gentle preservative (& hopefully natural) that I can use for both lotions & soaps (as I like to combine oils in my scrubs & soaps). Also is there one that can be used for lip products as well (i want to make lipstick- don't even know if I need a preserv.) I also have citric acid so can this alone act as a preservative? Thanks so much for your help :) "

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Staff Answer Unfortunately we do not carry an all natural preservative, and citric acid should not be used as a preservative. Water-based products need to contain a broad-spectrum preservative suitable for the formula because yeast, bacteria, and fungus grow in unpreserved water. Optiphen Plus, Germall Plus Liquid, and Germaben II would all be great options!

Posted By: WSP Staff   |   Date: October 17, 2013

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Posted By: Liz   |   September 28, 2013

"Why can't this product be used in spray applications?"

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Hello, This should not be used in spray applications because it can disperse into the air and when inhaled can be deemed as being toxic. It should be used in regular applications as recommended by WSP only. Thank you for your question Erin

Posted By: Erin   |   Date: October 01, 2013

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Posted By: john   |   September 07, 2013

"Please help. I'm a brand newbie and preservatives are confusing me. I can use the liquid germall plus in a body butter recipe that has no water, just oils and butters, and it will keep the oils from going rancid? "

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Any recipe that includes water in it or any product that may get water in it needs a preservative. So if you are using a jar like container that a customer may be dipping their hands in, say immediately after a bath or shower, you may want to add a preservative in order to keep bacteria or mold from growing. On the cautionary side, I would add it.

Posted By: Suzanne   |   Date: September 16, 2013

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Posted By: john   |   September 08, 2013

"Please help. I'm a brand newbie and preservatives are confusing me. I can use the liquid germall plus in a body butter recipe that has no water, just oils and butters, and it will keep the oils from going rancid? "

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Hello, I would honestly not put a preservative in a product that does not call for it. Normally you only use this is a product that contains water. Which oils you use for body butter should determine your products expiration date (meaning shelf life). Most oils have a shelf life of 6 months to 1 year. Thank You For Your Question

Posted By: erin   |   Date: September 14, 2013

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Germall is effective and geared toward products with a high water content. Optiphen is great for oil, oil-in-water, and water-in-oil applications. Here's a link to WSP's Optiphen http://www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com/ProductDetail.aspx?CatalogID=1&GroupID=11&CategoryID=2133&ProductID=4764&ProductName=Optiphen+Plus

Posted By: Denise   |   Date: September 14, 2013

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